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the state of texas to secure the border in the wake of president biden'south decision to end championship 42 expulsions. championship 42 is an emergency health guild enacted by the trump administration during the pandemic to prohibit migrants from entering the u.s.. -- beto o'rourke said this to our colleague lawrence o'donnell about those new rules. >> it is going to jeopardize jobs throughout the country, and throughout the united states of america for that affair. it is going to increment prices at our grocery stores even college, and information technology is worsening the supply chain problem that we already had. this didn't have to happen, it is the decision of one man, and one homo alone, greg abbott. some kind of political stunt that does zippo to improve the safety or security at our edge. >> hurts prices at the grocery store, hurts jobs, hurts the supply concatenation. issues that people across the country of texas, and across this country truly care about. certainly more than civilization
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wars. a very frustrated beto or piece of work taking u.s.a. off the air tonight. and on that no i wish you a good dark. from all of our colleagues beyond the networks that nbc news. thanks for staying up belatedly with u.s.a., and i will see y'all at the cease of tomorrow. tomorrow. it'south a landmark determination today by the national republican political party, this is something chris was just covering. i think it'south a landmark decision that the republican political party has said that they volition no longer participate in presidential debates. it will become down as a law marked decision and i think in political history, simply i think information technology was probably inevitable. i mean the mod presidential contend structure that the republicans are now opting out of that they're deciding to kill off with this determination today, is a procedure that puts journalists formally into the electoral procedure. journalist served equally moderators of the presidential debates.
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and that'due south what the republicans have decided that they tin can no longer bide. information technology really is just an amazing affair for the republican party to have decided this today with this unanimous vote at the republican national committee, just honestly actually could see it coming if you are looking in the right management. i mean once the president of that party, the leader of that party declared that the gratis press of the united states of america was at his words the enemy of the people, once the republican party decided that american costless printing is bad that journalism something they tin can exercise without merely that they're against every bit a party. well, this is where that ends are not gonna allow some formal role for the protests in the electoral process. they're not gonna exercise debates with journalist request questions, not when they've decided that as a political party that they're against journalism. they're against the press, the press is the enemy. i mean nosotros've seen all of these
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other sort of norms around this, traditions effectually this fall by the wayside without must commentary. the leader of their concluding president wouldn't even do the white business firm correspondents dinner which is a one-act prove. under the previous president they had the white firm spokesperson stopped doing briefings for the process. they invited rally goers to scream and kirsten reporters and camera crews were on site roofing the presidents rallies. it'southward been articulate where they accept where they've been going with this, just yeah, republican set formal 24-hour interval there will exist no more presidential debates. not with their candidates. this is a landmark thing, simply i think it was a quick and direct trip to that landmark, once republicans nether trump alleged that journalism is the enemy and every bit far as they're concerned information technology must be stopped. so, i don't know that in that location'south much more to said most that what'due south done is now down. but let the record testify that'south exactly why it happened. there's a lot of interesting things another landmark things in the news today. today one-time president trump's domestic advisor stephen miller, he had fought a subpoena from the january 6th investigation for months. he had even sue them to avert testifying, only today he testified to the january six
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commission. i'll take more on that after. january half-dozen investigation. san francisco chronicle today published a brutal, very long piece today quoting lots, and lots of across -- autonomous sources in california and the united states senate. all claiming to various degrees that senator diane feinstein of california'south mentally no longer upward to the task of being senator. i am'due south are basically that presumably because of age she is too out of it, also frequently to continue to hold the job. over again, these are unnamed sources and senator feinstein's
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part vociferously denying these claims, she's besides existence defended very aggressively by fellow senators and firm speaker nancy pelosi. but this is the second article along these lines about senator feinstein, the beginning was a niggling over a year ago from jane mayer in the new yorker magazine after the chronicle piece today there hasn't been widespread reaction to these allegations still in washington. presumably that's because the senate isn't in session right now, i'm bold that there is no senator who wants to stick their head over the parapet about this one. this is a really sensitive subject, not only for senator feinstein for a bunch of other senators. sure, she'south 88 only there are six other u.s. senators who are in their 80s right now. and so, similar i said non much reaction notwithstanding on capitol colina to this very difficult reporting on senator feinstein in the san francisco relate about her mental state particular most our short term memory. but this is a pretty real expiry nautical chart by an institution that does not really like contending with this issue at all, for which this effect looms big if
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nosotros are honest about it. so, we shall see how that emerges -- keeping an eye on that, yet. -- it just about this fourth dimension last calendar week on the show only started to get more credible but still unconfirmed reports near this ship. reports that the russians most important naval vessel in the work and stu crane had been hit or damage somehow. out of commission. today, that ship, the moskva, which is the russian for moscow, that ship sank. over the form of the last few days while this has been covered, you've probably heard the moskva described every bit the flagship as russian federation'southward fleet in the black sea. being the flagship means that it'southward the nearly important, usually the most capable, highest profile send in whatever fleet.
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the moskva was gigantic. if the ukrainians claim that they sank it with a line to come across missile is right, the moskva might be the largest send ever sunk past a missile. it'due south certainly the largest warship of whatsoever kind some since earth war two. this is a guided missile cruiser, information technology has a crew of 500, information technology's more than 600 feet long, and it'southward now gone. the russian ministry of defense has confirmed its sunk. we're gonna take some expert help here in a minute just to get to the applied significance of that evolution, likewise equally the new news today that new europe might pull out, mayhap, the biggest weapon that they have against russian federation. this was admittedly unthinkable, even just earlier in the course of the war, but europe today started to consider an embargo, an outright ban on russian oil. this is the -- this is every bit big every bit it gets in terms of punishing russian federation.
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russia is a petrol state, they presume they can have their way in the world because nobody what they did, no matter what's violence or nefarious ends they pursued, anywhere in the world, other countries would have to permit it slide because nobody can forgo russian oil. well, subsequently 50 days of russia bombarding ukraine, and ukraine begging the world, begging europe in particular, to cut russia off, to stop funding the russian country by ownership their oil, today, europe finally started to draft an embargo that would cut off the russian state. by stopping buying their oil. they said it couldn't be done. just, europe has started that process today. in that location is no larger economic measure that could exist taken against russia, oil and gas is the existential lifeblood of their sclerotic, backward economic system. if it is cutting off, russia every bit we know it, will cease to be. we volition accept proficient help on that. and much more than coming up this evening.
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but i desire to first us off tonight, here at abode. with a headline that is possibly not a surprise but it has come sooner than whatsoever of us have expected. here it is tonight from the associated press. quote, ballgame stop in kentucky as groups seek to block new police. just read that 1 more time, ballgame stock in kentucky as groups seek to block. lawmakers in kentucky passed a pecker to arrive harder for women to get abortions in that country. previously, kentucky had a constabulary in the books that you couldn't go enough abortion there if your pregnancy was 20 weeks along. this new constabulary passed final week ruled it back even further if -- if your pregnancy is xv weeks along or further. they will become dorsum from 20 to 15 weeks. kentucky republicans are not the outset to pass that kind of legislation, they will not be the concluding.
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simply unlike in most of the other states with republican -controlled legislators, kentucky has a governor who was a democrat. and after the democrat -- kentucky republicans passed -- u.s. autonomous governor, andy beshear, he vetoed it. concluding night, the republican-led legislator in kentucky voted to override the governor's veto. and the applied consequence of that is very of import for our land. because information technology means that that new ballgame ban in kentucky is at present in issue. in that location is no grace period, there is no planned implementation date for the hereafter for it, the law takes upshot immediately. it's operational today, right at present. and it turns out, it'due south much more than but a 15-week ban. in that location is already only two clinics that provide abortions
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in the whole state of kentucky, they're both located in louisville. tonight, both of those clinics say that because of the way that the law is written, not simply because of the 15-calendar week ban, but because of the other restrictions and the nib that are designed to make it basically impossible for anyone to perform any legal ballgame in the state, those 2 last clinics in the state tell us this evening that at that place is no mode for them to comply with this new police force. which once again, went into outcome today with the veto override. so the last two clinics in kentucky are announcing, as of now, they had to close their doors. they are no longer able to provide abortions because of this new law every bit of today. which means, if we are talking about landmarks, today is the landmark because today, for the first fourth dimension since roe 5. wade, supreme courtroom decision in 1973, today, the outset american land has gone dark. to outright block all legal access to abortions in the state, full stop. kentucky is the first 1. it's the showtime state with no legal access to ballgame since roe v. wade in 1973.
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now, equally you know, as we've been covering for months hither, kentucky is just one on a long list of republican controlled states that have passed radical new restrictions that make it close or outright impossible for women to go abortions. the one that got u.s.a. the nearly attention is the bounties style police force in texas, the texas law sets up a bounty system, a vigilante arrangement, that tells anybody in the general public, you don't even have to be in texas, literally, any random person, anywhere, can bring a lawsuit to anyone who is believed to accept violated the new restrictions texas set upwards around abortions. that includes non just bringing a lawsuit confronting a md who provides an ballgame, but everyone who helps a woman obtain an abortion. even a person who just drives you lot to the dispensary, or loans you money to get the process done. the texas law, the vigilante law in texas have been in the books since september, it remains in upshot today. since the passage of the texas constabulary, we've seen several states attempt to laissez passer copycat laws.
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idaho became the first country to get one signed into police in march. it'due south set up to get into effect later this month. just this week, oklahoma became the latest state to pass a ban on all abortions. it'due south not a twenty-calendar week ban, it's not a xv-week ban, it's not even a six-week ban like in texas. this is no abortions, at all, with no exceptions even if the pregnancy came well-nigh as a result of incest, or as a result of rape. a woman who was raped and became meaning equally a result of the rape would exist forced, by the state of oklahoma to carry that pregnancy to term and give birth to the rapists child confronting her will. that oklahoma ban is scheduled to go into consequence this summer. other states have tried to laissez passer these kinds of outright bans in the past, only of course, they take been blocked past the courts because the supreme court previously affirmed that the constitution affords women the correct to go an ballgame. that was the roe five. wade determination. i mean, theoretically, at to the lowest degree
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for at present, roe v. wade protects the right to get an ballgame in this land in all 50 states. just with this court, the spring court is currently considering a case in the law of mississippi that bans on a abortions after 15 weeks. that violates the protection established by roe v. wade. the supreme courtroom is considering that now, if they allow that missy mississippi police force to stand. which they are expected to do. that volition effectively not abound out. and with, it any ramble protections they -- for bush and access. just today, the republican governor of florida, ron desantis, signed a new xv-week ban on abortion just like the 1 that'due south beingness challenged in the supreme court in mississippi. the florida ban is scheduled to go into effect in july, which is around the time are gonna get a decision from the supreme court on potentially overturning roe. what's this whole flurry of republican anti abortion laws has been around the country. prepare for the 24-hour interval they are expecting before long, when roe v. wade will fall because of the supreme court. when they want to get the bans
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on the books at present and so that everything is ready to go once roe is thrown out. in the meantime, they're making information technology as difficult as humanly possible to go women abortions nether whatever circumstances. threaten anyone who loans the money, certainly threaten the doctors, threaten the women. just now, put that kentucky headline back up there. as of today, abortions have stopped in kentucky. at that place are 2 clinics that provided a abortions in kentucky before today. neither of those clinics tin provide abortions anymore under the new police merely passed in that state. which ways not in a few months, not if and when the supreme court knocks down roe, tonight, today, ballgame access is gone in kentucky. at first glance, the kentucky law looks very similar to the one that is being considered in the supreme court, this mississippi law, information technology's a fifteen-calendar week ban on all abortions, no
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exceptions for rape or incest, when you lot open the hood on this, that'south where you see all the other restrictions that accept actually resulted in ending abortion access in the state. it'south an olympic level of obstacle course -- theoretically required to bound through if they are to provide any abortions at all. if this new police that went into effect today in kentucky requires that all pro abortion providers file paperwork about the steps they take afterwards they perform an abortion. this is a new requirement on its face, doesn't seem and so bad, correct? no 1 likes paperwork, just that'south an easy box to check. turns out, no, information technology'due south not, because in this case, this paperwork they have to fill out doesn't exist yet. they rushed this affair nether the books, this constabulary literally went into effect was zero notice. kentucky republicans and give anyone time to create these new forms, they've suddenly said are required by law to be filled out if you want a provide an abortion legally in the state. as of today, to perform a legal
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abortion in the state of kentucky, you're required to fill out a grade that literally doesn't be. so, know the abortion providers in the state of kentucky cannot exercise that and stay within the four corners of the law. here's another, i for a physician to legally perform an abortion in kentucky, as of today, y'all have to report to the state of kentucky the full proper noun, historic period, race, ethnicity, wellness information, and hometown of the adult female's sexual partner. correct. so, the male parent. to the child in consideration. they consider this -- that'southward how they are approaching this. they are saying that we need all this information about the sexual partner of this woman who wants this abortion. once more, this bill provides no exception for rape. so if you lot are wrapped in kentucky and need to know the home, town, race, ethnicity, wellness status of your rapist, you have to check that with him in social club to be able to get an abortion legally in the country.
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and if you don't provide that information, can't go the abortion. here's some other one, because of this new police, in order to provide a patient with medication abortion, non even a surgical abortion, only a medication abortion, all kentucky doctors have to register with the state earlier they are allowed to legally do then. the hitch here is that the state has not set upwardly a system by which doctors are meant to register. it does not be. the state has not come up with a plan to build the organization. planned parenthood operates one of the 2 remaining abortion clinics in kentucky. a spokesperson in kentucky said, quote, there'south nothing appears for providers to be able to comply with this news laws regulations. that's why we are stopping providing care. we literally cannot meet the demands this bill would crave. then, yes, just a fifteen-calendar week ban is farthermost. they are using a 15-calendar week ban to break roe v. wade. a xv-week ban violates the protections established by roe v. wade. that's what they're gonna employ at the supreme courtroom to become rid of roe.
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merely in the land of kentucky, is not merely a 15-calendar week ban which is why all ballgame stopped in the state today, it's considering of all of these other restrictions. these literally incommunicable to comply with medically unnecessary obstacles that kentucky republicans have put these doctors in the place of having to comply with. that'south fabricated it impossible for them to continue providing this care to kentucky women. that'due south why kentucky, today, has been the first stage since roe v. wade to cease beingness able to provide abortions to women in that case under many circumstances. the kentucky law has already been challenged in court, both planned parenthood and the other clinic which is being represented by the aclu have filed quartile adjusts of the law. both are issuing a restraining order to put it on water ice until information technology's mitigated in court, but that's of niggling use in kentucky right upwards where in that location is a zero admission to legal abortion as of right now. information technology is the first state to go nighttime in 49 years.
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joining usa now is bridget a mary, she is the deputy de director of the aclu liberty project. she is challenging this police in kentucky. thanks very much for being here, i know this is a pretty intense important twenty-four hour period. >> thanks for having me. >> let me simply inquire if i explained any of that wrong, or that'southward basically what we should understand about what is happened in kentucky and how far -- how much further down the road kentucky is toward an effective ballgame ban than other states. >> you got it right. i also want to assure patients that we are doing everything we can to cake the law as apace as possible.
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so i really hope that we have the court order, peradventure tomorrow event that restores access to abortion in kentucky, and if you demand an abortion in kentucky, i urge yous to call it a dispensary, the situation is changing rapidly. only you're right, this is function of a larger context. there is an ballgame access crisis in the u.s. right now, and it's going to become exponentially worse. in six weeks, when the supreme court decides the mississippi case you lot mentioned before. roe v. wade may be overturned in a pigsty, or it might be dismantled and information technology will wreck havoc across the land. >> in terms of the mechanism here in kentucky, obviously, we've accept this new 15-week ban which is why that -- same type of band that'southward earlier the court right now, that mississippi case you just described. in that location is another one of those bands just passed in florida. we accept lots of states pursuing those. but it's those other restrictions that get in, literally, impossible for health care providers to comply with arcane new laws that require specific things from them that can't exist done because for example the forms don't exist or the system doesn't be for them to register with
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and all these other things. it'south these obstacles, these unbeatable obstacles that have shut down karen kentucky, that'due south something that the other states accept non simply been pursuing in the by just might ramp up as nosotros caput towards the supreme court decision too. >> we've long seen attempts by states to push abortion out of reach by an unnecessary restrictions. one makes kentucky unique is that concluding night around 7:30, every bit you mentioned, when the legislature overrode the governor'south veto, the law took outcome immediately. it's a 72-page labyrinth of a ton of restrictions, none of which can be complied with because it'due south, as y'all said, the state has and created the infrastructure to comply with the law. it'south a archetype catch 22, it'south a gotcha moment, there is no time to comply, and that'southward why we had to stop today. but nosotros filed a lawsuit as of this morning, as did planned parenthood, and nosotros're hoping that nosotros get the abortion admission restored. >> what sort of timing are you hoping to move this lawsuit on?
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plain, you lot're asking for essentially the law to be enjoined, the log from end from beingness gone into issue. what's the all-time case scenario if things become your way? >> nosotros could get a determination anyone from the judge. we asked for a restraining order from the courtroom then we can go it tonight, we could get it first thing tomorrow, that'south why i'thousand urging people in kentucky, if you need an abortion, contact the abortion dispensary, contact the abortion fund, and we don't want people to exist confused because anarchy and confusion is function of the design. these antiabortion legislatures that want to push abortion out of reach, want to ban abortion, they also want to misfile people, scary people, stigmatize abortion, and so we want to be very clear, we want people who need abortion and need to get information technology are fighting for it, always be in touch with folks on the ground who tin can tell you the condition. >> bridget amiri, deputy director of the aclu reproductive freedom project,
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thank you very much for your time. tonight as i said, this is a landmark day for all the wrong reasons. it'due south an intense time. give thanks, you good luck. >> thanks for having me. >> we take much more ahead tonight, stay with us. ♪ ♪ do your optics bother you? because afterwards all these emails, my eyes feel like a philharmonic of stressed, dry out and sandpaper. strypaper? why do nosotros all put upward with this? when there's biotrue hydration boost eye drops. biotrue uses naturally inspired ingredients like an electrolyte, antioxidant, even your tears' own moisturizer. and no preservatives. these ingredients are true to your optics' biology. see? bio.true.
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designer apparel for her, there'south a weird room full of boxed jewelry, and boxed trinkets and things are non totally certain what those things are. there's a roomful of antiques including certificates of actuality for various antiques. then, that's what's inside but then you go outside on the grounds and this is where -- what'due south that? covered in military cover-up netting it really isn't easy to meet what that is. presumably that makes it not piece of cake to see from above, but honestly it'southward even kind of hard to figure out what it is from the basis every bit y'all could see here. well if you lot pop inside is that kind as, you tin see what is in their. what's in there? oh my god look, it'due south a simulated train station. now to be clear this isn't a real train station at that place's no real rail tracks that lead to our out of this matter that looks like a fiddling recitation. you meet the benches and
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everything, and little lamps, it's a replica. a train station replica merely sitting on the fake tracks at the false train station in this guy's yard is a false train machine, a personal fake train machine, and look these guys, they put on plastic to cover so they won't mess upward the rug when they go in. but then they get in and look, this train motorcar is like the oriental limited, it's all cherry velvet, hand carved, hardwood and gold everything that looks golden actually is gilded. and this isn't some kind of restored antique this guy just loves the classical era of trained rattle. and information technology'southward a rich guy rescued and restored this whole railroad train cart, this is apparently a newly built affair. it's a fake -- train car within a fake train station. blimp with hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of gold fittings, expensive silver, the coffee machine is gold plated, the crystal tumblers
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take the seal of the russian federation on them. and you lot know this is coming, yous know this is coming yes, there is a gold toilet. with a gilded holder for the toilet brush and at that place'due south a gold hose on the big day, which is like a lilliputian runcie matter for your business concern and. does the hose for that really demand to exist aureate? given its function? really, yeah, everything must be gold including the thing yous squirt. this is just amazing. i hateful this astonishment, this matter with a golden everything and the stained glass ceiling inside the fake rail carte, the gold crests everywhere, that surface area. coldest belongs to this gentleman. his name is viktor medvedchuk,
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he's now under abort in the ukraine having been previously charged with treason. this train automobile parked in his g in the fake railroad train station and parked in his grand was reportedly a gift from his married woman sometime last year, a birthday 's president, a niggling special thing for him to play with. viktor medvedchuk, do whatever run a risk think that when kennedy was donald trump -- in 2022 for whatever reason he chose this guy paul manafort, a guy with whom he had no prior relationship. paul manafort four years take been working overseas getting paid by putin connected corrupt all of nighttime'due south to install putin continued corrupt politicians in positions of power in the nation of ukraine. that book i read called blowout's near how putin weaponize oil and gas and abuse to effort and keep ukraine and other neighboring countries nosotros tin can depended on
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russia and under -- thumb. when donald trump initially hired manafort to write his campaign in 2022 that'south what paul manafort specialized in. weakening other countries past installing pop lies corrupt russian profits who would practice putin's behest in the political leadership of other countries. that's what he was doing for a living. and and so trump hired. him weird, why would we want that in america wedowee are kills fix to bring to an american campaign. anyway, and ukraine's work on ukraine manafort's nearly famous client was ukrainian prime number minister he got elected there a pro putin boob proper noun yanukovych, and a covid you might remember flying to moscow when ukrainians rose up and threw him out of office. and you might remember from segments here on this prove that afterward ghana covid ship vlad ukrainian people started going in his various -- palaces that he had all over ukraine. and that'south how they learn that him practise had gold toilets. what is it with these guys, at least yanukovych had a toilet
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with weird gold lizard-y feet, and a aureate flusher and aye a gold big twenty-four hours for the squirting. at present nicola at a private zoo, in his instance he didn't accept a faux gold plated personal train car like medvedchuk, he had a fake golden plated personal spanish galley -- that he floated on his private plane and used every bit his individual eating house. swish these guys. yanukovych's gone fled back to moscow and now it's viktor medvedchuk guy with the gold plated train car, who's as of this week is nether arrest in ukraine for treason. he was too one of paul manafort'south guys in ukraine. is one of the richest man in ukraine he'due south link obviously to the russian government he's worked for putin's involvement in ukraine that out of the whole functioning that manafort ride to install putin puppets in position of power in ukraine, putin's godfather to ane of medvedchuk's daughter is a was there for unsettling when we learned that he'd been 1 of the con trump entrada'south contacts in 2022 when russia was intervening in our election
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in trump into the white house. but at present the ukrainians rested viktor medvedchuk they've taken his assets including the train automobile they've taken his assets of the oligarchs that were working for the russian federation inside ukraine. and ukrainian appear today that medvedchuk alone they have to seize 30 plots of state xx, three houses, 32 apartments, 26 cars and a one. yacht. presumably that one false railroad train card that had -- springwater of the caboose! at just as russian oligarchs the world over are having the yachts seized and their assets frozen, ukraine to its trying to complimentary itself of what russia has been doing to them, by weaponizing corruption to create these powerful, rich, pro putin power centers inside their land. to keep the country decadent, weak, destabilized, dependent
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on russia. just today, a big new step. today, europe, the european union, finally took the first step toward really pulling the plug on russia's power. toward really dismantling russian federation equally a state. at to the lowest degree, as the kind of country information technology is now. because the european spousal relationship today began drafting a measure that would ban the purchase of russian oil and gas. if there is one matter that could end putin's russian federation as we know information technology, it would be that. will they really do information technology? more alee, stay with usa. ♪♪
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2 top lawyers for the trump white house pat cipollone who was white house counsel, and patrick philbin his deputy had spoke with the investigators from the january 6th investigation. co-ordinate to reporting from the new york times donald trump apparently believes he authorized [laughs] these white house lawyers speak to the panel. no one knows what that would
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-- well now, this flagship of the russian black sea armada has apparently been sunk. the ukrainian government is challenge that the ships sunk later on was hit by ukrainian fabricated neptune anti ship missile. the russian version of the story is that this is and why the ships sunk, it's sunk due to a fire. due to, quote, hold that mitch received ring of burn, from the detonation of ammunition. the united states has reportedly non confirmed either version of events. but it's already had a practical event on the country of playing in the black sea. one senior defence official told reporters that about one-half a dozen russian ships in the black ocean motility themselves farther out to bounding main, further off
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the ukrainian coast after the moscow was hit. if you retrieve about it, it'due south not the sort of thing you would practice if the moskva went down because somebody was like smoking in the ammunition room, correct? why would that's catastrophe on lath your flagship vessel cause you to move all of the other ships further offshore? that would solve the problem if you guys merely started a fire on board your own send. and the russians are obviously trying to salve confront by saying it was justified by denying that the ukrainians sunk it. either fashion the damage is done the ship is gone and if you think about information technology for a second of how they're trying to brand its, on its life in a practiced argument. as u.s. national security adviser jake sullivan tweeted today, quote, 1 story is that it was just incompetence, meaning, we set fire on our own ship, the other stories that they came under assault. neither is a particularly good consequence for them.
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my next guest agrees with the states. joining united states now is bricklayer clarke, he's the pb russian federation annotator of the found for the study of war. mister clerk, i capeesh y'all taking time to be with the states tonight. cheers. >> give thanks you for having me. my pleasure. >> we have had a lot of give-and-take already, even before nosotros knew that the moskva was lost when nosotros just heard that it might accept been hit, or that it was somehow harm for some reason. nosotros heard a lot near how it would have a moral bear on, information technology would boost the morale of the ukrainians, it would hurt the morale of the russians. i know morale is a practical thing in wartime, but beyond only the morale factor, how important is this loss in terms of applied -- for the russians? >> information technology'south of import for the morale swing. the most vote was infamous, as that warship was involved in the ophidian blow in the showtime of the war. but in terms of practical abilities, it has supported the
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russia companion guided missile strikes, in particularly in -- areas. but that wasn't small proportion of air and missile strikes that russians have carried out throughout the war. also as certainly a accident, it'south not going to change the course of the campaign, i'd say by depriving the russians of any capability. at present, of course, with the russian warships backing off from the black bounding main coast, every bit you noted, not something that y'all would do if you had a fire in your ammunition surface area, it'southward likely going to deprive some of those russian forces along the coast of air defenses against the ukrainian air force that some of these four ships have been providing. that might be a more immediate technical impact. simply in terms of russian offensive capabilities, frankly, these warships have not been that essential to begin with. >> in terms of the ukrainian offensive capabilities, if ukraine is borne out, if they are right that they volition exist able to sink this warship, effectively, with a missile strike, i'1000 no expert in naval warfare, but as far as i, know that's a pretty rare style, if not a unique manner, to sink a warship, particularly one of the size. and it wouldn't indicate that
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ukraine has more than capacity of this blazon -- they accept weapons that have been previously been used in wartime, that might be more effective than had been previously conceived, is that fair? >> exactly, this is actually likely the first time that plenty melody has been used in gainsay. it was only introduced to ukrainian armory in 2019, quite recently. and with its domestic ukrainian missile, but fifty-fifty in addition to this, ukraine is increasingly receiving similar systems from the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland and various other western partners that will allow them to push dorsum on russian say-so in the black ocean. nosotros've already assessed for
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onetime that there is very trivial chance that the russians will be able to mount and in fabius invasion of the southern grade of ukraine, which was a worry early in the war, but particularly ukraine has certainly demonstrated that information technology can threaten such a landing, it has to be off the table. information technology'south definitely going to exist a huge boon to the ukrainian military and lessening that threaten enabling them probably to acquit out their own operations on the black sea, whereas the ukrainian navy has been bottled up in ports since the early base of operations of the state of war. at least until now. >> mister clerk, tin also just ask you lot, at that place's a lot of give-and-take now, including discussions led by the u.s. government, sort of advising the u.s. public want to think about what is going to come next, we are told to expect that russia is regrouping, repositioning, and that they are planning for a major ground functioning in eastern ukraine. and peradventure as well in southern ukraine. are we seeing the kind of movement of forces, are nosotros seeing the kind of massing of forces, that would indicate that something like that is imminent? is it possible that russia isn't about to mount an operation that large or that it might be further off in the hereafter, that we've been permit's believe?
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it doesn't seem like they have the manpower the textile in place to do something on the scale that we take been led to expect. >> you should've hit the nail on the caput there, they're trying, to merely we don't recollect that it'due south going to be very effective. we are seeing a lot of signs on the ground we, both from ukraine intelligence and videos, both from russian and ukrainian civilians, huge russian columns moving down into rostov another key russian cities supporting those operations in eastern ukraine. the issue is that a lot of those units are badly chewed upwards infighting effectually kyiv, in church building and, in sumy, information technology those areas in northeastern ukraine that russian forces had to carelessness the last couple of weeks. they have non really accept the time to reform, supervene upon lost equipment, restore morale, these troops are very demoralized. and they're unlikely to contribute much to russian combat power in their damaged state. i don't desire to overstate that, unfortunately, but a sheer weight of numbers and resource of the russian military may be able to button through ukrainian
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defence force in some areas when they do launch a wider offensive likely in the next week or 2. just i certainly don't remember that the russian war machine has the capability to conduct the big quantum that they would like to at this point in the war due to how desperately their initial operations went and how sparse the remaining reserves are. >> mason clark, the atomic number 82 russia annotator at the found for the study of war. mister clerk, if that'due south clarifying and interesting to talk to yous about this. thanks for making time with united states of america to talk tonight. >> of course, cheers for having me. >> we will be right back, stay with us.
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